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Alexandre Xavier
de Camargo
(photo) was born
in a Spiritist
family in
Marília, São
Paulo, in 1970,
but was brought
up in Rolândia,
in the
neighbouring
state of Paraná.
Alexandre
Camargo is
married, with
three children.
He has a degree
in Psychology
and has been an
enthusiastic
collaborator in
the Spiritist
Movement. He has
been using the
Internet to help
in the
dissemination of
the Doctrine.
How has your
area of
expertise –
Transpersonal
Psychology –
influenced and
helped you as
someone
dedicated to
teaching the
principles of
Spiritism?
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When I began to
read Psychology
at University in
the city of
Londrina, I felt
compelled to
establish a
connection
between the main
concepts of
Spiritism and
those of
Psychology.
Spiritist books
dictated by the
spirits of
Joanna de
Ângelis and
André Luiz, as
well as the
classic books of
Allan Kardec,
Hermínio Miranda
and other
authors provided
me with a very
coherent and
solid basis,
which would
prove important
in my future
work as a
qualified
psychologist. I
realise now that
Joanna de
Ângelis in
particular
played an
important role
in narrowing the
gap between
Transpersonal
Psychology and
Spritism. |
How do you think
Spiritism can
benefit from
Transpersonal
Psychology?
I believe it
will be crucial
for the
development of
Spiritism. One
area where the
Doctrine can
certainly
develop is that
of
self-knowledge.
I would go as
far as saying
that the main
goal of
Spiritism is to
provide the
opportunity for
people to
achieve
self-knowledge,
and then,
self-transformation,
internal reform.
The concepts of
Transpersonal
Psychology will
bridge the gap
between
Spiritism and
modern science.
And
Transpersonal
Psychology, in
its turn, will
gain too, as
Spiritism will
provide not only
vast material
for research,
but also the
so-important
ethical
framework.
What is your
view on the
relation between
mediumship and
the
psychological
and emotional
problems, so
prevalent among
us?
As psychic
powers become
more widespread,
we all become
more and more
sensitive.
However, we tend
to connect first
to spirits in
the lower
echelons. We
connect to them
as a result of
our own bad
habits and
thoughts, often
disturbed and
unbalanced. That
is why we have
so many cases of
mental disease
and emotional
disturbances, at
all levels,
these days. I
have worked
extensively and
specialised in
making the
connection
between
psychological
problems, such
as guilt, low
self-esteem,
various
conflicts, and
the problems
caused by spirit
attachment. I
always try to
establish what
levels of
mediumship, or
psychic powers,
my clients
have.
How, from the
point of view of
Psychology, you
assess the
disturbances and
imbalances of
mediums?
Mediums are,
before anything
else, human
beings with
specific
personal
problems and
challenges,
often with
imbalances in
their history –
in this life and
previous
existences. As
those internal
conflicts
emerge, they may
link many
mediums to
unhappy,
disturbed
spirits. That is
why in my
practice I also
have among my
patients
disturbed,
unbalanced
mediums. And as
the treatment
progresses,
their mediumship
tends to become
more balanced.
That is what
makes come to
the conclusion
that behind the
troubled medium
was a troubled
person, who
needs to let it
off their
chests, who
needed to be
understood,
guided and
encouraged in
much needed
changes in its
private life.
You see many
patients in your
private
practice. Can
you identify,
among them, many
mediums?
Yes, many. As we
meet for
sessions, I
gather
information from
the patient and
from my
observations,
based on his or
her behaviour. I
am normally able
to identify what
comes from their
own personality
and what comes
from their
mediumship –
some sort of
hypersensitivity
which fails to
come across in a
healthy in
productive way
in the person’s
life.
Tell us about
your Internet
project.
It all began
with the website
www.patalk.com.
I must admit I
was overwhelmed
by the vast
possibilities
offered by the
Internet to
disseminate the
ideas of
Spiritism. One
week after
beginning in
that website, I
had opened my
own chat room,
which I called
Spiritist Centre
Mary of Nazareth
– a virtual
extension to the
Spiritist group
I am attached
to.
What was the
first
achievement of
that virtual
Spiritist
Centre?
We began with a
live study,
using keyboard
and microphone,
as we always do,
of the book “O
Ser Consciente”,
dictated by the
spirit Joanna de
Ângelis.
For those who
want to join you
online, what do
they need to
do?
You need first
of all to
download the
software on the
website
www.paltalk.com,
to set up a
login and
password. Once
you login, you
will be able to
enter the
virtual chat
rooms. Our room
is in the South
America, Brazil
area of the
site. Our chat
room – Centro
Espírita Maria
de Nazaré – will
be on the list,
but only when we
are on air,
during the
agreed hours for
the studies I
mentioned.
What is the Chat
Room Depression,
Treatment and
Cure?
It is a chat
room I created,
as a
psychologist. It
remains open
24/7, with
several bits of
audio, video,
lectures, and
information in
general about
mental health.
That is a way I
found to go
beyond the
services offered
by the Spiritist
Centre,
providing useful
assistance from
our friends of
other beliefs.
As a Spiritist
psychologist,
what can you say
about your
experience as a
public speaker
and lecturer?
What is the
reaction from
people in
general to your
lectures?
I feel that
people are eager
to learn more,
to achieve
self-knowledge,
and that they
are looking for
something beyond
the average,
something else.
They are looking
for answers.
Do you have your
own website?
Yes,
http://alexandrecamargo.multiply.com.
I have
downloaded many
audios of
researches and
studies on that
website. Whoever
wants to
register to the
site will have
access to all
that material.
Your final
thoughts,
please.
Of all I have
learned in the
last few years,
what really
amazes me the
most is the
potential human
beings have to
improve and
develop. We will
only overcoming
our “flaws” when
we replace them
with what we are
lacking, which
are the divine
qualities we
need to develop
within us. And
we can only
achieve that
through hard
work and study,
the knowledge
coming alongside
love. We need to
put into
practice this
amazing
potential we
have. We need to
reinforce our
belief in
ourselves and to
mobilise all our
energy in
actions and
projects that
will contribute
to our personal
development.
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