Marlene
and Mário Gonçalves:
“We have in Brazil an
efficient method for the
study
of Spiritism”
The
couple based in the city
of Ribeirão Preto, in
São Paulo state, has
worked for many years in
the dissemination and
expansion of the
official method for the
study of Spiritism set
up by the Brazilian
Spiritist Federation
(FEB) and better known
by its acronym, ESDE
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Marlene Fagundes
Carvalho Gonçalves and
her husband, Mário
Gonçalves Filho (photo),
both from the state of
São Paulo, have
dedicated many years of
their life in Spiritism
to the dissemination of
the study method. ESDE,
the Systematic Study of
the Spiritist Doctrine,
has been adapted to the
English language in the
United States by Vanessa
Anseloni
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as the Roadmap
Program for Spiritist
Study and Practice.
Marlene is a university
lecturer and Mário works
in business
administration. In this
interview, they share
their views on the study
method set up by FEB: |
What is ESDE and how was
it created?
Mário:
ESDE is a method created
for the study of
Spiritism in a serious
and continuous manner.
It has several levels
and is based on the
works of Allan Kardec –
the Codification of
Spiritism – and other
works of recognised
value. It was launched
by the Brazilian
Spiritist Federation in
November 1983 to meet
the demands of the
Spiritist Movement.
How long does it take to
do the course?
Marlene:
It is a three-year
course with weekly
meetings of 90 minutes.
The course follows the
order of subjects as
they appear in The
Spirits’ Book. It is
important that once a
group is created to
begin the course, its
composition remains the
same until the end,
without any newcomers.
The different module
complement each other
and the subjects are
interconnected.
What is the most
important pedagogical
aspect of the method?
Marlene:
It is basically the fact
that the study is done
in group, which
facilitates learning and
enables information and
experiences to be
shared. With the group
study, people have the
opportunity of building
their own concept of
Spiritism and also of
developing their moral
aspects. That is why we
say that this method is
not only a road map of
study, but a way of
studying, which involves
the active participation
of all its members.
Are there any recurring
problems with the method
when it is introduced to
a new group?
Marlene:
The main challenges
relate to the insecurity
we all having in dealing
with what is new. The
new instructors often
ask: What if people do
not say anything? What
if they do not get
engaged? We end up
underestimating people.
If we give them an
opportunity to engage we
will see everyone has
interesting experiences
to share and ways of
contributing to the
group. Others ask: What
if they ask me a
question and I do not
know the answer. Well,
it is a group study and
it is the responsibility
of everyone in the group
to study, research and
look for the answers,
based on the
Codification of Kardec.
The instructor must
coordinate, guide and
facilitate that process.
What has been the impact
of your work? How many
people have joined the
study group programme?
Mário:
We began our work of
disseminating the ESDE
in the state of São
Paulo in 2005 and the
impact has always been
very positive. The exact
number of participants
is not known, but we
estimate that there are
more than 120 Spiritist
groups involved, with
more than 300 study
groups. If you consider
there are on average 14
people in each group, we
estimate there are some
4,200 people enrolled in
the ESDE study groups
across the state of São
Paulo.
Is there any experience
or anecdote you would
like to share with us,
from the study groups?
Marlene:
We have noticed a clear
transformation of all of
those involved. These
are transcripts of two
participants of the
study group, which
illustrate my point:
“When my wife told me
she had booked us into
the course, I admit I
only agreed to it out of
politeness. She argued
that I was inconsistent
and missed too many
meetings. I begin to
think about how slow
those two hours per week
would drag on, but I
resigned to it. After
the third or fourth
class, I got really
engaged in this new
learning method and
everything changed. A
colleague in the group
said she also felt
intimidated and shy in
the beginning, but soon
realised she felt
confident in her
analysis. That led to a
radical shift in our
behaviour. In my case,
the obligation became a
deep interest. For her,
it meant gaining
self-confidence.”
“Since I was a teenager
I considered myself a
Spiritist, as I believe
in reincarnation, in the
communication between
incarnates and
discarnates, in the
existence of God, that
there are other
inhabited worlds and the
mediumship phenomena.
But my knowledge was
very superficial. I use
to read the odd
Spiritist book and go to
talks, which helped me
get a better
understanding of the
Teachings. But I still
had a problem: my ideas
were disorganised,
random. I need to find
something that would
help me organise and
make sense of the
knowledge I had, a
systemised method of
learning. I found ESDE
at a Spiritist book
fair. And I found what I
was looking for. It
sounds obvious, but I
began by the beginning.”
Is there anything else
you would like to add?
Marlene:
All of those engaged in
the Spiritist Movement
agree that we need to
study the basic works of
Kardec. This method has
proven a very efficient
way of learning and has
been successful in
hundreds of groups
across the country. It
is available for free on
the website of the
Brazilian Spiritist
Federation and it can
also be bought in
bookshops.
NT:
The English language
version of ESDE, adapted
by Vanessa Anseloni in
the United States, is
also available on line:
http://www.ssbaltimore.org/roadmap/phase-I.html.