Flávio Mussa
Tavares:
“My father’s
life was
distinguished by
his personal
conduct and
loyalty to the
Christian and
Spiritist
principles”
Flávio Mussa
Tavares is the
son of our
missed writer
Clóvis Tavares.
He talks about
his father and
his work, who
was the author
of several
important books
and one of the
pioneers of
Youth Spiritist
groups in Brazil
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Our interviewee
Flávio Mussa
Tavares is the
son of a notable
writer and
spiritist
speaker Clóvis
Tavares who left
an extensive
literary
contribution for
the expansion of
Spiritism
thinking. Flávio
was born and
still lives in
Campos dos
Goytacazes (Rio
de Janeiro,
Brazil). He
works as a
President for
the Escola
Jesus Cristo
(Jesus Christ’s
School). He
comes from a
spiritist home
and has three
books published:
Mandamentos
de Deus,
A Morte é
simples mudança
e Célia
Lúcius, Santa
Marina.
His answers
bring us
remembrance of
our dear Clóvis.
O Consolador:
Clóvis Tavares
has a very respectable name in the
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spiritist
literature and
movement. Can
you please tell
us a bit of
biography? |
He is from São
Sebastião, which
is part of
Campos, in the
state of Rio de
Janeiro, Brazil.
My father was
born on the 20th
January 1915,
which is Saint
Sebastian’s day.
He had a
Catholic
childhood, and
was familiar
with the French
Priest Emmille
Des Touches. In
his teenage
years, he became
part of a youth
group that was
against the
exploration of
the man by man,
and was a
political leader
for PCB
(Brazilian
Communist
Party). After
his fiancée
passed away, he
became spiritist
when he
recognised her
through a
mediumship
communication.
There were many
traces of
authenticity on
it, which were
enough to
convince a
dogmatic and
atheist young
person. after
his conversion,
he founded
Escola Jesus
Cristo to
which he worked
until he was 69
years old, when
he passed away
in the same
city.
O Consolador:
What were the
books he
published?
He wrote a
series of books
for children:
Dez Mandamentos
(Ten
Commandments),
História que
Jesus Contou
(The Story Jesus
told),
Meu Livrinho de
Orações (My
little book of
Prayers),
Vida de Allan
Kardec para a
Infância (Allan
Kardec’s life
for childhood).
He also wrote a
few biographies:
João Batista,
Pietro Ubaldi’s
life, Trinta
Anos com Chico
Xavier (Thirty
Years with Chico
Xavier), Amor e
Sabedoria de
Emmanuel (Love
and Wisdom from
Emmanuel).
He also wrote
books with
philosophical-religious
content: De
Jesus para os
que Sofrem (From
Jesus from those
who suffer),
Sal da Terra
(Salt from
Earth),
Rocha dos
Séculos (Rock
from Centuries).
He published a
book for
biographical and
mediumship
research:
Mediunidade dos
Santos (Saints’
Mediumship).
He also wrote a
book in
partnership with
Chico Xavier:
Tempo e Amor
(Time and Love).
Unfortunately,
the publisher
LAKE altered the
content from the
book Meu
Livrinho de
Orações
(My little book
of Prayers).
O Consolador:
How did he
become spiritist?
Did he get to
found
institutions,
and to which has
he got more
involved?
He became
spiritist after
receiving a
communication
from the Spirit
of Nina Arueira,
who was his
fiancée and
passed away
quite early.
Soon after that
he founded the
Escola Jesus
Cristo,
which was the
only spiritist
institution he
ever got
involved.
O Consolador:
Who was Nina
Arueira in his
life, and what
kind of
influence did
she have on him?
Nina Arueira was
a fearless and
modern young
lady at her time
that lived in
Campos around
the thirties.
She wrote
newspaper
articles, gave
conferences in
theatres, lead
youth and work
movements until
she had typhoid
fever. This
illness confined
her for a few
months at a
house of a
spiritist
gentleman. He
managed to
convince her of
the spiritual
truth of the
human being, and
the divine
justice through
the law of
reincarnation,
and cause and
effect.
After her death,
my father was in
chock
emotionally and
looked for a
medium in
Campos. This
lady transmitted
messages for
him, in the same
format and
language they
used to write to
each other: in
English. From
then onwards, he
met Chico
Xavier, who
changed his
destiny
forever.
O Consolador:
How was the
meeting and the
familiarity with
Chico Xavier and
Pietro Ubaldi?
Chico Xavier and
my father met in
1936. They
started to meet
and exchange
correspondences
as from 1938,
which lasted
until 1983. My
father wrote a
memoirs book of
Chico Xavier:
Trinta Anos com
Chico Xavier
(Thirty Years
with Chico
Xavier), Amor e
Sabedoria de
Emmanuel (Love
and Wisdom from
Emmanuel).
All letters
which are
mentioned on the
book are full of
wisdom. Pietro
Ubaldi was his
correspondent
from 1950 until
the beginning of
1972. From his
work, my dad
translated the
following books
to Portuguese:
As Noúres,
Ascese
Mística (Misthical
Asceticism)
and Problemas
Atuais (Present
Problems).
O Consolador:
After he passed
away, has he
sent any
messages?
My father sent 6
letters through
his friend and
medium Chico
Xavier. They
will all be
published with
commentaries in
the book A
Saudade é o
Metro do Amor
(The feeling of
longing is the
metro of Love).
O Consolador:
His speeches
were always
eloquent and
full of great
inspiration.
Have they been
transformed in
books?
His speeches
were
theoretical,
doctrinal and
evangelical. He
used to speak
with his heart,
and managed to
overwhelm and
touch the
audience.
Besides books,
we prepared some
of his speeches:
Sal da Terra
(Salt from
Earth),
Rocha dos
Séculos (Rock
from Centuries).
We are in touch
with the video
producer Oceano
Vieira de Melo,
who is gathering
material for a
DVD documentary
on the life and
work of Clóvis
Tavares, which
should be
launched in
2010.
O Consolador:
Can you please
tell us about
the research
your father has
done on the
character Célia
from the famous
romance 50
Anos Depois (50
Years Later),
from Emmanuel?
Dad used to
research in Rio
de Janeiro the
life of saints,
to find out if
they were
mediums and the
type of
mediumship they
had. One day he
found a brochure
about the life
of Saint Marina
the Monk, who
lived in
Alexandria. When
he read the
biography, he
knew straight
away it was
about Célia
Lúcius. For
seventeen years,
Marina lived
both as a monk
and a boy named
Marinus. This
lady when living
at the monastery
was called
Brother Marino,
but after her
death, when her
real identity
was discovered,
she was called
Saint Marina the
Monk or Mary of
Alexandria. My
dad used to
emphasize how
could Chico
Xavier know all
this world of
wisdom, culture
and science?
I accumulated
his notes, and
published a book
on the 18th June
2008, which is
the Feast day
for this saint,
according to the
Catholic Church.
This book talks
about the
coincidences the
book 50 Anos
Depois (50
Years Later) has
with several
texts the
Catholic Church,
Maronite from
Lebanon, Greek
and Russian
Orthodox
Churches.
O Consolador:
What were the
most remarkable
aspects of your
intimacy with
your father
Clóvis, not only
at home but also
with the
spiritist
activities?
My father’s life
was
distinguished by
his personal
conduct and
loyalty to the
Christian and
Spiritist
principles. He
always lived in
absolute
accordance with
the principles
he preached. At
home, he was a
devoted father
who was always
available for
our spiritual
and material
needs.
O Consolador:
What do you have
to say about the
book A
Mediunidade dos
Santos (Saints’
Mediumship)?
Mediunidade dos
Santos
(Saints’
Mediumship)
is his
masterpiece
according to
Chico Xavier.
After my father
passed away, he
met some of the
individuals he
wrote about in
the spiritual
world and
reconfirmed all
data on that
book. He
describes these
meetings in some
of the
communications
received via
Chico Xavier.
These are all
detailed in the
book, soon to be
published, A
Saudade é o
Metro do Amor
(The feeling of
longing is the
metro of Love).
O Consolador:
Can the books
Amor e Sabedoria
de Emmanuel
(Love and Wisdom
from Emmanuel)
and Os Dez
Mandamentos (Ten
Commandments)
be
considered the
most remarking
ones in terms of
Clóvis Tavares’
literacy
production?
The first book
brings us news
and revelations.
My father is
full of
gratitude for
the noble spirit
Emmanuel, and
that is stated
on the book
clearly. The
second one was
his first ever
book published
which focuses on
young children
(audience), who
need to find out
more about the
first
revelation. My
father
understood that
if a child
learns the
ethical
behaviour
expressed in the
Decalogue,
he/she would be
ready to learn
the Sermon on
the Mount and
then the moral
laws found at
the Spiritists’
Book.
O Consolador:
Are all his
books available
for purchase?
Most of the
books are found
in book sales
and
distributors,
but Sal da
Terra (Salt from
Earth),
which was a
limited edition.
We are now
looking for an
editor to
publish it.
O Consolador:
Can you please
tell us anything
you judge to be
important for
our readers?
My father
founded two
orphanages in
Escola Jesus
Cristo. He
educated several
children, and
always following
Dr. Bezerra de
Menezes’ words:
"Nothing to ask
for; Nothing to
complain about".
He founded one
of the first
Youth Spiritist
groups in Brazil
together with
Leopoldo Machado
in 1940. He also
implemented the
Systematic Study
of the Spiritist
Doctrine at that
time. This group
studies and
analyses the
fundamental
principles of
the Spiritist
Doctrine, in its
scientific,
philosophical
and religious
aspects. This
group is still
open nowadays,
and is open to
the public.
O Consolador:
Would you like
to share some
final thoughts
with us?
I hope we can
all learn more
about the
fundamental
principles of
the Spiritist
Doctrine. The
Spiritist
message should
be lived fully
and shared to
everyone. It is
our duty to
disclose the
Parable of the
sower. In the
parable, a sower
dropped seed on
the path, on
rocky ground,
and among
thorns, and the
seed was lost;
but when seed
fell on good
earth, it grew,
yielding thirty,
sixty, and a
hundredfold. We
need to spread
knowledge,
happiness and
fraternity, just
like our Father
has done.
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