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Martha Rios
Guimarães (photo),
known as
Marthinha in the
Spiritist
Movement, is our
interviewee this
week. She works
in the Spiritist
education of
children and
teenagers at the
Spiritist Centre
Gabriel Ferreira
– or Gabi – in
São Paulo, and
is also a member
of the public
relations and
media team of
the specialist
publication,
O Dirigente
Espírita.
She talks to us
about her
remarkable work
in those two
areas:
How did you
become a
Spiritist?
I was brought up
as a Catholic,
and when was a
teenager my
mother converted
to
Presbyterianism.
I was looking
for answers to
many questions,
as a
teenager,
and began
to do research
on
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other religions.
Thanks to my
mother, I
couldn’t live
without God in
my heart. After
many attempts,
here and there,
I was invited by
a friend to
attend a meeting
at a Spiritist
Centre. I turned
it down,
initially, as I
mixed up
Spiritism with
Spiritualism,
like many
people, but
ended up giving
in and went to
the meeting,
where I felt
really well,
better than
ever. I was
determined to go
back the
following week,
when one of the
volunteer
workers asked me
to follow her.
There was a
message from the
Spiritual World,
a spirit telling
me that I had a
commitment with
Spiritism and a
beautiful job to
do. He told me
my duties were
to be carried
out elsewhere,
not in that
particular
group. They gave
the contacts for
five Spiritist
Centres and in
the last one I
felt I was at
home and said:
“this is where
I’m going to
be”. That was in
the late 80’s,
and I’m still
working with
them as a
volunteer. |
Tell us a bit
your work with
young people at
the Spiritist
Centre Gabriel
Ferreira.
Gabriel Ferreira
is the Spiritual
Benefactor whom
the group is
named after. He
has often
reminded us of
the importance
of setting up a
group to deal
specifically
with young
people. And that
is one of our
activities
there. I believe
children and
teenagers should
be provided with
all the
information from
the doctrine of
Allan Kardec,
not only the
moral and
religious
aspects of it.
We need to
provide them
with the tools
for their
challenges in
this existence.
And we must bear
in mind the fact
that children
and young people
are capable of
learning much
more than many
believe. They
are fully
capable of
learning all the
aspects of the
Doctrine at a
young age. We
start at the age
of four. Allan
Kardec was a
great educator
and his works
reflect that. We
study at the
Spiritist Centre
and also
encourage them
to study at
home, do their
homework and
read. And we set
up a Junior
Board of the
Spiritist
Centre, with
young people
aged from 11 to
17. Amazing
ideas come up
from there.
In the light of
your experience,
how do you think
Spiritist
Centres should
approach the
issue of
education of
young people?
They must first
of all
understand the
difference
between
entertainment
and Spiritist
education for
young people. To
educate young
people into the
Doctrine, there
must be careful
planning by
dedicated
educators. The
department in
charge of
education of
young people
must be
integrated into
the structure of
the Spiritist
Centre. It can’t
be left
isolated, as a
separate
initiative.
Everyone must
understand the
strategic
importance also
of teaching the
Doctrine to
young people: we
will all benefit
in the long run.
The main goal
must be to make
the Spiritist
message, in all
its aspects –
science,
religion and
moral –
available to
young people.
The pupil must
come to the
Spiritist Group
and feel good
there, knowing
they will meet
people who will
respect and
understand them.
Other
attractions,
such as snacks
and presents,
are not
forbidden, but
must come after
the teachings.
Material things,
which are also
important, we
know, may be
acquired
elsewhere. But
where else will
they learn the
Spiritist
message?
What are the
main challenges
and difficulties
concerning the
Spiritist
education of
children and
teenagers?
There are many.
The main one is
the fact that
the educators
are not properly
appreciated,
which lead to
many of them
giving up. Also,
many educators
are not well
trained and feel
insecure. They
must be well
prepared for the
task. With that,
they will do a
high quality
job, with the
teachings
tailored for
each specific
group. Another
challenge is to
get the parents
involved, is to
get them to do
their part in
the education of
their children.
Marthinha, you
are about to
publish your
first book. Tell
us a bit more
about that.
The book is like
a record of all
my activities in
the education of
children and
teenagers. I
talk about all
the main issues,
such as
planning, how to
prepare lessons
etc. It’s a very
simple and
direct guide,
which I believe
will be very
useful to all
those working in
the same field.
How much support
do you believe
you had from the
Spiritual
World?
Throughout my
experience in
the education of
young people I
have felt the
Spiritual
Benefactors near
me, supporting
and directing
me. It’s been a
rich, moving
period of my
life, sublime
even.
Tell us about
your work with
the media. Do
you think the
Spiritist
Movement does a
good job in that
area?
With a few
exceptions, the
Spiritist
Movement doesn’t
do a good job in
that area. One
of the reasons
is we don’t have
many journalists
working in
Spiritist
Centres. And
many groups
don’t even have
an allocated
sector for PR,
or media
activities. We
need to choose,
first of all,
the best way of
conveying our
message. It’s
not practical
for all
institutions to
publish their
own newsletter.
One of the most
effective ways
of communicating
within Spiritist
Centres is
through public
speeches, so we
must focus on
that and make
the best use of
those events. As
for spreading
the Spiritist
message outside
our groups, we
must remember
the lesson from
the Codifier,
who advised us
not to impose
our faith on
anyone. We must,
however,
introduce it so
that those who
are interested
have the
opportunity to
learn. There
are two
important,
separate
aspects. First,
is the
institutional
message of
Spiritism. We
must choose the
people to speak
on behalf of the
Doctrine and
prepare them for
the job. And
second, is how
to attract
people to
Spiritism. We
must destroy the
stereotypes
about Spiritism
and show people
what we are
really about. In
the Spiritist
Centre Gabriel
Ferreira, we
have a project
called
“Spiritism in
the Streets”: we
“forget”
Spiritist books
in public
places, such as
the underground,
buses, shopping
centres, so
people find them
and read them.
Your final
thoughts….
I must thank you
for the
opportunity to
hear my views.
And I must use
this opportunity
to thank all of
those who opened
their arms and
embraced me in
the Spiritist
Movement. I
can’t imagine a
better or more
fraternal world
unless we share
our experiences,
adding what we
have learned to
what other
people who’ve
passed through
our lives have
learned.
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