O Consolador:
What are your
activities in
the Spiritist
Centre?
In with regards
to
Joanna de
Ângelis
Spiritist
Society in
Sarandi (RS),
which is a small
Spiritist centre
that has only a
few members;
everybody
performs several
tasks. Further
than being the
president I also
go to the
lectures and
engage to the
mediumistic
sessions,
spiritual
healing,
Spiritist
counselling and
study group
activities.
O Consolador:
And in with
regards to the
Spiritist
movement?
I am a member of
the Law-Spiritist
Association of
São Paulo (AJE-SP).
I have written
articles for “The
Reincarnation”
magazine,
published by
FERGS, for the
Law-Spiritist
Association of
Rio Grande do
Sul - AJERS and
for the
spiritist centre
Auxilio
Fraternidade,
based in Ijuí
(RS). I also
contribute with
some office work
for the União
Municipal
Espírita de
Carazinho (RS)
and I am the 1st
Vice-President
of the Law-
Spiritist
Association of
Rio Grande do
Sul.
O Consolador:
How is it to
combine the
activities you
have in your
important role
in the public
prosecution
service with the
tasks of a
Spiritist
worker?
The main
challenge is to
look at each
issue in the
light of a
Christian
perspective. To
take into
consideration
the personal
drama that
exists behind
each process and
make a
constructive and
positive
comment, even if
the problem
cannot be solved
as expected.
The biggest
frustration is
not have enough
time to supply
the demand, as
we know how much
there is to be
done. I believe
this is
encourages us to
work as hard and
efficiently as
possible. God
help us all to
achieve that!
O Consolador: Is
there any
special
experience you
would like to
share?
I had two cases
where woman
pregnant with an
anencephalic
fetus wanted to
abort. The fact
that I know the
importance of
preservation of
life and how
important were
those
pregnancies for
reincarnating
spirits has
enlightened me
to find the
correct solution
for these
cases.
O Consolador:
What do you
think about
Spiritist
workers who are
involved in the
public sector?
It is essential.
In the Spirit’s
Book we have
been already
warned by the
spirituality
that the evil
prevails on
Earth because
the good people
are failing to
fill this gap.
Each Spiritist
person can be
counted amongst
the good ones,
even though they
have to overcome
their defects
and work to
improve as human
beings. Their
contribution is
essential to
improve our
public
institutions as
many of them are
discredited at
the present
time.
O Consolador:
What is your
motivation to
work with drug
addiction
related issues?
Through my work
experience I
have
acknowledged the
drug addiction
problem and how
devastating it
can be to the
families and
relatives, this
is my main
motivation.
Sometimes we
feel frustrated
by the slow pace
of the results,
including the
creation of
public
facilities that
we know are
essential to
prevent, treat
and repress drug
addiction, but
we must be
strong and keep
going.
O Consolador:
How important is
the support
provided by the
Spiritist
Centres to the
addicts and
their relatives?
Our role as
Spiritist is to
comfort the
sufferers and
the best way to
do that is
teaching that
even the most
dreadful pain is
a temporary
situation;
however we must
do our best to
overcome the
root cause.
Therefore we
must open the
doors of our
Spiritist
Centres and
offer help to
addicts and
their relatives,
exposing them to
the Spiritist
Doctrine,
providing
spiritual
treatment and
supporting their
families.
However this is
not our only
task. In our
society there
already are
organisations
and groups also
fighting drug
addiction, our
isolated actions
are not as
effective as
joint efforts.
We need to
research and
acknowledge the
existing
structure and
join it,
creating a big
network. This
way we will be
able to tackle
all sides of the
problem and
consequently
help addicts and
their relatives
more
effectively.
O Consolador:
How is it for
you to deal with
the challenges
brought by crack
addicts, where
there is a total
lack of self
control?
Everybody
working with
crack addicts
tends to be
frustrated.
We would like to
have facilities
that could
provide a more
effective
treatment,
however they do
not exist.
Scientific
research have
shown that the
recovery of a
person addicted
to cocaine or
its sub
products,
including crack,
tends to be a
succession of
ups and downs
with recovery
and relapses, a
process that can
take up to
several years. I
always try to
put this problem
into the
spirit’s
immortality
perspective, who
will be always
able to recover,
no matter how
long it takes.
We must invest
in the human
being, no matter
how degrading
their current
situation is.
Besides
increasing the
law enforcement
against drug
dealers, as a
severe penal law
is still
necessary for
the mankind at
this stage, we
aim to prevent
the use of crack
by working in
partnership with
schools and
families to
establish
creative
campaigns to
prevent
substance abuse
before it
happens.
O Consolador:
Are the
Spiritist
centres prepared
to work as
school of
souls?
The situation
varies, there
are institutions
that have
successfully
being schools of
souls, and
however there
are others that
did not achieve
the same results
due to several
reasons. That is
why it is so
important to
embrace and
integrate the
Spiritist
federation, as
this institution
can convey the
successful
experiences to
everybody, so
they can be
repeated
everywhere.
O Consolador:
How do you see
the current
phase of
Spiritist
dissemination?
I think we are
using our
communication
resources more
effectively in
order to
disseminate the
Spiritist
Doctrine. The
actions taken in
the last four
years by the
Department of
Communication of
the Spiritist
Federation of
Rio Grande do
Sul are a great
example.
Besides the
improvement done
to their website
where they have
implemented a
web TV, they
have also
facilitated the
Spiritist
centres to
establish a
stronger link
with their local
communities,
helping them to
disseminate the
Spiritist
doctrine.
O Consolador:
How do you
perceive the
challenge of
criminality?
The criminality
level has
increased due to
the society’s
individualist
and consumerist
behaviour. We
allow these
artificial moral
values into our
homes as soon as
we switch on the
TV and tune into
a channel
indiscriminately.
Some nations
seem to have
replaced public
policies, which
could emancipate
its most
impoverished
people, by
prison
incarceration.
Thus we should
not dispense the
criminal law as
it is still
needed, but our
society should
focus on
renewing its
moral values
stressing the
importance of
being at the
expense of
having as well
as to invest in
public policies
that can help
marginalized
people to become
citizens.
O Consolador: As
the public
interest in the
Spiritist
doctrine is
increasing,
which actions
should the
Spiritist centre
coordinators
take to prepare
the Spiritist
centres to
better serve the
new comers?
I believe that
all Spiritist
workers should
be aware of
their
responsibilities
and do their
best to welcome
everybody that
comes to the
Spiritist
centre. It means
having the
receptiveness
posture that is
expected by the
public, as we
should work as
instruments of
the Spiritist
Doctrine to
comfort people.
To be sensitive
enough to
perceive what
could be the
person’s problem
and to refer
them to the best
service
department, this
will better
suffice their
expectations.
In a small
institution such
as the one I
work for, we all
coordinate and
are coordinated
at the same
time. Thus, we
must help each
other constantly
to pay attention
to our work
routines as well
as to self
reflect and
improve
ourselves,
overcoming any
material
obstacles that
may arise.
O Consolador:
How important is
for a Spiritist
worker to guide
their conduct by
the divine and
human laws?
The Spiritist
Doctrine shows
us that the
human laws are a
reflection of an
era, and they
are as imperfect
as the humanity
that creates
them. On the
other hand the
divine laws are,
as its Creator,
perfect and
immutable. We
shall obey to
the human law
according to the
Federal
Constitution of
the country;
this is
something that
we must abide as
citizens of a
democratic
state.
Interestingly,
judging by how
evolved we are
as a nation – we
are governed by
a modern
constitution
that includes
all human rights
that the
twentieth
century laid
down as
achievements -
is that if we
could treat
others in the
same way we
would like to be
treated, as
stated the Law
of Justice, Love
and Charity, of
course we would
naturally
respect the
rights of all
people. To do
so, we should
not only stop
any practice
that could harm
others, but
essentially to
make them grow
as human beings.
And we should do
so simply
because they are
our fellow
citizens.
O Consolador:
How can the
Spiritist
Doctrine
contribute to
build a fairer
society?
I think that the
previous answer
explains it:
making the most
perfect concept
of justice
clearer – treat
others in the
same way you
would like to be
treated,
including
thoughts, words
and actions -,
the Spiritist
Doctrine leads
us to develop
our law and to
apply it in a
way that we can
help
marginalized
people to take
their seat in a
society of
equals before
God and people.
O Consolador:
Your final
words.
Thank you for
the opportunity
to be part of
this space which
is so valuable
for the
Spiritist
dissemination,
we hope that
this channel can
continue,
through its
forthcoming
editions, it’s
trajectory of
enlightening
souls and
comforting
hearts through
the spread of
knowledge.
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